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idioterenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16863474903208703279noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156768943715219923.post-56586814900192474952015-05-13T13:53:00.000+08:002015-05-14T11:13:14.564+08:00智力測驗 - 能源議題<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">習得能源議題後,最大的收獲並不是獲得能源相關的知識。能源的問題,小民如我們很難改變什麼。 即使是舉辦全國能源會議,最後的結論好像有開還是跟沒有開一樣。雖然去年核能流言終結者大軍入侵有改變了一些什麼,聽說政府還是台電很高興終於有人幫忙出來講話,因為以往都是反核人士佔據會場,除此之外</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">,</span>我想整個社會的成見還是很難在一時之間改變。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">不過學習能源議題還是有其他好處</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">,</span>最大的好處是,可以測試其他人的智商。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">基載容量不足 〈請見: </span><a href="http://taiwanenergy.blogspot.tw/2014/09/1.html" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">核電煤電相輔相成〈1〉--基載電廠不可偏廢</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> 〉</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">電網問題, 包含南電北送和沒有和國外接電網 〈請見: </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NuclearMythbusters/posts/244188382435415" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">台灣是一個島嶼,電網並沒有與其他國相連接</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> </span><a href="http://www.npf.org.tw/post/3/13912" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">談台灣電力結構與南電北送之困境</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">〉</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">綠能不穩定 〈夏天沒風 晚上沒電 太陽能需大量土地 水力會缺水〉, 其他能源根本不能用〈如果能用還等的到你嗎〉 〈</span><a href="http://anuclear-safety.twenergy.org.tw/Faq/faq_more?id=53" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">我們能不能以再生能源(太陽能、風力、地熱)全面取代核電</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">〉</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">即使台灣廢核, 台灣二百公里內也有十數座核電廠〈聽說有反核團體聽到這個崩潰了〉</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">基礎版無涉核能,都是一般科學基本知識,有些簡單的連三歲小孩都可以懂,所以如果這一項在閱讀上有問題,而且最基礎知識還輸三歲小孩,那就真的很遜了。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">這麼說其來有自,因為曾經有反核團體提出的要求是要政府在夜間解決太陽能無法發電的問題,也要求政府要解決風力發電不穩的問題。 反核團體講的時候,核終那群人笑的很大聲,讓反核團體崩潰,瘋狂亂指核終那群人在嘲笑他們。一方面我覺得核終太殘酷,大家都看過那一夜我們說相聲,這樣笑人家是不是很殘酷?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">另一方面,我也很同情這些團體, 畢竟他們連基本的科學知識和常識都有問題。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">檢驗自己的方法也很簡單。反核的方案就是大幅增加火力,如果反核增火這個的結果都能夠接受,我相信這就是是反核人士。當然反核人士就不要偽稱自己是為了環境為了人民,火力發電造成的環境問題和死亡人數,在統計上比核能大很多呀。</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">例如:核電是低燃料成本,核電建廠成本高,這些東西很簡單就可以從 Google 找到類似的數據,不管是國內還是國外,台灣一年核燃料成本是 80 億, 40 年的核燃料再處理成本是 1600 億。平均一年是 120 億〈不考量物價〉。一年的天然氣費用是 1600 億。 誰高誰低很明白。</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">但是要小心反核團體放了很多似是而非的資料,而且他們的 SEO 都很棒,在 GOOGLE 的查詢結果排名都比較前面。要如何避開這些有問題的資料,將會是一大挑戰,但是如果能整理出來自己的脈絡,一定對以後判斷其他人的論述有一大幫助。也是以下第三項談到的功能。</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">其實最早的概念還是來自核終聊天室, 有個人發表某個能源議題, 就可以拿來檢測一下他的智商〈其實立場也可以,大概也有90%〉。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">不僅僅可以測反核, 還可以測擁核。像是宮守業博士〈自然科學博物館館長〉也是曾經被修理過的。不因為你是博士還是自然科學博物館館長, 也不會因為你說立場擁核就會有不一樣的結果。 像是</span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NuclearMythbusters/posts/373036282883957" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">這一串就是講燃煤仍然是重要的基載能源</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">。 </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">所以朱立倫是想用天然氣取代核能, 當然如果有學過能源政策, 台灣天然氣要靠海運, 只有 7~14 天的存量。 新北的替代方案是想在海上建接收和儲存站, 這就有點異想天開了, 不過至少還知道要用天然氣去補核電的缺口。 至於為什麼是天然氣, 這就不在本文的探討範圍:</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">首先, 騎腳踏發電這件事情己經非常笨了, 我們知道要二十個人騎腳踏車發電才能供一個人生活所需。 所以獸力發電這種事情應該只會在落後國家發生〈其實是不會發生, 因為獸力更不穩定〉。 我沒有想到我們己經是己開發國家, 結果還去強調獸力發電。 目前台灣有三座核電廠, 有一座在民進黨縣市, 等一下會提到。 更不要講電進電網之後就沒有辦法分是不是核能來的。 所以即使是宜蘭也是有可能會用到核電的 〈我印像宜蘭是淨輸入電縣市, 自己發電不多〉。 </span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">就我個人所知, 這應該是少數以科學和知識反擊不實謠言的團體, 創辦人黃士修成立約一年多, 但是已經在很多地方成功反擊許多反核人士. 例如: </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://www.ettoday.net/news/20140502/352691.htm" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">核能流言終結者:沒有反核人士敢跟我們公開辯論!</span></a></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NuclearMythbusters/posts/256665957854324" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">ALOBA 不敢出來辯論 (就目前得知, 他還有勇氣叫陣的)</span></a></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/paper/840666" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">全國能源會議 反核擁核爆口角</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> => 全國能源會議社會團體出席人數眾多, 壓過傳統環團</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">這群人是什麼人組成的呢? 有人說是清大核工, 有人說是台電<span style="font-family: inherit;">員工</span>, 有人說是國民黨黨工.聽說在核能流言終結者出去發言的, 常常會被冠以擁核三<span style="font-family: inherit;">工</span>, 就是上面那三個身份了.各位, 用腦袋想一想, 如果真的是這三個團體出錢, 會是只有這樣嘛? 等一下會說明原因.<span style="font-family: inherit;">(註<span style="font-family: inherit;">:原來</span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">擁核三<span style="font-family: inherit;">公有錯,<span style="font-family: inherit;">已經</span>修正</span></span></span></span></span>)</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">就我知道, 成員來自四面八方, 主要成員是黃士修和張中一, 這二位的經歷肉搜就知道了, 黃士修還脫光光給你看. </span><a href="https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1415014465.A.B1A.html" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">黃士修自承是國政基金會的人</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">. (註: 在寫本文時, 大部份找黃士修國政基金會的文章己經被</span><a href="http://udn.com/NEWS/BREAKINGNEWS/BREAKINGNEWS6/9150871.shtml" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">電價公聽會火花四射 學者針鋒相對</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> ranking 拉下來了, 網路真快)</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">其他成員就複雜了, 政府, 公營企業,民間團體,民間公司(各行各業), 學生等等.而專業就是涵蓋電子、電機、金融、文學、能源、物理、歷史、醫學、哲學、化學這些理工管理或是文學等等.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">而且成員並不一定是完全擁核, 很多時候可以說, 是反反核.或是反無腦反核.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">黃士修就自己說過, 他本來是反核, 看到福島事件很多事情和國內反核人士說的不同, 才創立核能流言終結者.如果是聊天室成員, 本來就可以自由參加的.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">核心理念很簡單, 以我個人看來, 大概就是這二句話 </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">推廣科學思辯, 反擊不實謠言</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">這樣的一個團體, 雖然在現實生活上並不出名, 但是在網路上己經可比戰神, 在綠到不行的 PTT 八卦版殺出一條血路, 至少目前看到擁核文章並不會被噓到爆炸, 很多反核的文章反而會被噓. 算是有成功教育了部份的鄉民. 現在這條路正延伸到現實社會, 全國能源會議就是主戰場.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">說完了背景介紹, 該來談談人渣文本這篇文章, 之所以要談這篇文章, 不如說, 這篇文章集合了所有反核人士(綠色人士)的疑問及恐懼. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">首先, 本文一開始先貼標籤, 我們都知道要在氣勢壓過對方, 首先就是要用手段壓制對方. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">所以本文的標籤有, 蔡正元, 擁核, 國民黨, 科學怪宅, 統派, 沒有道德資本, 欺暪百姓等等. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">各位可以往上翻一翻核能流言終結者成員的背景. 很多其實與人渣文本講的一點關係也沒有, 所以人渣文本不瞭解核能流言終結者, 如同國民黨不瞭解年經網路族群是一樣的.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">再接下來看第一點, 人渣文本講的是”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">網路擁核者多是不懂行銷的科學怪宅。</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">”</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">我不知道科學怪宅的定義在什麼地方, 不過想必是科學怪人+日本阿宅想像的綜合體. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">但是剛剛講過,成員是各行各業都有,所以說宅這件事也很怪,很多都是要和其他人接觸的工作.所以人渣文本要不是搞不清楚,要就是貼標籤.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">而第一段就非常奇怪, 核能流言終結者基調是核能流言太多, 我們要破除這些流言. 而不是行銷核四, 行銷核四是台電或是經濟部的工作. 如果真的要說, 大多數人只是要破除流言. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">所以為什麼要行銷核四呢? 不如說要行銷自己, 有位</span><a href="http://disp.cc/b/786-8mB2" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">網友</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">說的不錯</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">1.擁核人必須先想出杜絕所有重大公共建設貪污的方法</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">說實在話,從以上兩點我完全看不出來所謂行銷專業在哪裡,或者該文已經自承這些反核的言論不過是政治謾罵手段罷了。如果所謂行銷就是用謊言與虛假去欺騙,那的確核能流言終結者這一點比不上某些團體</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">再轉回來, 這裡也偷渡了一個概念:將 ”行銷者必定掩飾產品的問題” 強冠在核能流言終結者頭上. 這個概念和核能流言終結者的出發點是相左的, 這個團體大家都不認為核能是絕對安全的, 但是我們可以做些防護措施降低出事機率. 他們的目標很明確:只是針對欺騙性言論的反駁,跟行銷核四一點關係也沒有</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">當然最近縣市長選舉綠營大勝, 所以人渣文本又說現實政治如何如何. 不過這並沒有打到核能流言終結者的理念核心. 因為他們是要破除流言, 目前所有的動作可以說是... 呃, 反反核.並沒有跟現實政治有什麼關聯.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">至於他有一點講對了, 就是核能流言終結者的確需要行銷. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">但是核能流言終結者本身就是用打假貨去反駁反核者的論點, 從目前來看, 人渣文本的行銷構想, 100% 是會被核能流言終結者打槍的.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">第二點提到”</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">網路擁核者和統派意識形態搞得太近</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">”</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">這個我剛剛有提到, “是這群人有 </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">不一定支持國民黨, 但是大部份討厭民進黨</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> 的現象, 可能因為長期反政府反馬反核能反核四這些議題都綁在一起, 就會有這個印象”</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">與其說他們和統派意識搞得太近不如說,反核和獨立意識形態綁在一起. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">檯面上知名的台獨人士統統都是反核的. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">而反核團體和民進黨為了彼此的目標相互借助力量,也都走得很近</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">整個民進黨看起來就是就是反核的</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">綁定的結果, 結果這就會造成 反核 == 民進黨 == 台獨 == 假貨 == 反智 的既定印像</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">事實上核能流言終結者也打國民黨的假貨像朱立倫之流.問題在於文渣人本並未認清:核能流言終結者因為反核,所以認為民進黨大都是假貨. 國民黨也很多假貨但是不像民進黨多,自然看起來就像跟統派走太近</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">至於吸引獨派這件事情大概就不可能成功, 倒不是不會想說服獨派. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">因為找資料需要查詢閱讀大量資料, 即使是歷史, 有些成員也是用海量資料壓過去, 獨派可能都會落荒而逃. (參閱 </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/HistoryMythbusters?fref=ts" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">歷史流言終結者</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/HistoryMythbusters/photos/a.780338792020804.1073741828.779641082090575/780766588644691/?type=1&theater" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">昨天提到228的日據前因,有讀者提到關於日據的化肥資料、戰後缺糧等問題</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">). 光是228翻盤應該人都跑光了.不過歷史是複雜的議題, 不像核能還是科學領域, 就言盡於此.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">第三他提到了 “<b>網路擁核者缺乏道德資本</b>”</span></span></span></div>
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<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">你核能流言終結者是個什麼咖, 要來和我比知名度. 我能上電視上媒體宣傳, 你是什麼東西. 跟老子比. 你還早的很.</span></span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">老子已經封神!不可質疑你的神!你有什麼資格質疑我的神格?</span></span></span></li>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">大致上就是損人捧己與光環效應, 這種招騙騙年青人可以, 騙我這種老江湖還早的很. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">其實他講的有些也沒錯. 核能流言終結者是個興起不到二年的網路新型態社運(我實在不想用社運, 這詞早就被污名化了). 媒體資源, 社會資源政治資源都很少, 但是這東西是可以累積的. </span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">像是昨天黃士修戰到黃偉哲夾著尾巴跑了, 一戰成名. (</span><a href="http://www.stormmediagroup.com/opencms/news/detail/dd275854-8bfc-11e4-8635-ef2804cba5a1/?uuid=dd275854-8bfc-11e4-8635-ef2804cba5a1" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">台電績效變態的好?學者立委火爆互嗆</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnEfx6jVtNc&feature=youtu.be" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">影片</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">). 記者就知道這個人, 願意訪問他. 12/26 台北場全國能源會議會後沃草也有訪問他. 想必以後知道這人會引起話題,曝光度就大增了. 這樣陰德值也增加了.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">我個人很好奇, 核能流言終結者是台灣一個很神奇的現像. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">因為最原始的成立初衷是, 用科學證據反擊不正確的論述, 用理性論述. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">核心成員遍佈各行各業, 加入者大多能認同這個理念, 並且學習並實行之. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">它之所以會出現, 正表示現在台灣都用幻想臆測流就下判斷, 不經查證就傳播錯誤的知識, 而且大家非常討厭這種狀況. 同時也表示,各個議題造謠,假論述,反智非常嚴重.所以才會有這群團體出來,他們也的確成功扭轉很多人對核能的刻板印像.這不就表示台灣這問題非常嚴重嗎,果然是X島.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">或許非感性非恐嚇性的論述己經引起許多人不適,所以人渣文本才會用科學怪宅稱之. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">很多人也用鴨霸, 過度偏激去形容核能流言終結者認同者最近的行為. 只要看到有虛偽的議題就上去澄清,只要對方繼續硬拗,就呼朋引伴一起過去”教育”人家.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">我必需要說, 這個就是網路霸凌, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">只是傳統的網路霸凌是用謠言和漫罵, 核能流言終結者用真理, 知識和海量證據網路霸凌. </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">碾壓到有人崩潰了(範例: </span><a href="http://www.wetalk.tw/thread-21330-1-1.html" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">為什麼擁核派在台灣會節節敗退</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">) 不知道該稱讚他們還是該勸他們收收手. 當然大前提是論述的時候應該依據事實和真理.要不然論述用感覺, 難道用愛就可以發電嗎? </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/twjusticeforum/photos/a.555258497904861.1073741828.455581344539244/675527592544617/?type=1&theater" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline;">難道有桌子論述就會正確嗎?</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> </span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">當然,跟據側面得知,這些人被假貨搞到覺得很生氣,怒氣值滿點.怒氣值有沒有比陰德值大我不知道,但是短期內到處開戰應該免不了.這部份也要再觀察,看最後會不會超過界線還是會自己約束自己.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">在實體方面,反核人士目前被這個團體嚇到了吧,不僅僅表現走樣,派出很多無知的環保團體成員發出很多很低級的錯誤言論.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">跟據側面得知,往年此種大型會議,會場都是反核人士的天下,並沒有反反核或是擁核的聲音.所以政府單位會被這些人的政策影響左右.今年因為核能流言終結者成員大量出現,或以團體身份或是以個人身份發言,往年一面倒的反核聲音今年反而變成弱勢.像是最有錢的富邦成立的媽媽監督核電廠聯盟只有在台北場才到場.(妳們錢這麼多次數還來的這麼少).今年比較能聚焦在能源政策上一點,很多反核的偽論述也馬上被打臉.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">依據現有的事實和證據, 大膽假設小心求證?還是只要有大標題就可以想想? 或是用造冊流血的方式思辯?</span></span></span><br />
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idioterenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16863474903208703279noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156768943715219923.post-57288324087230275212014-12-04T13:22:00.000+08:002014-12-04T13:22:06.026+08:00Blame Language某天在辦公室裡遇到的對話:<br />
RD-A: 我們這個系統的效能不夠,老闆要求每分鐘10000 request耶<br />
RD-B: 就跟你說python的效率太差了!換成 LUA 就沒問題了!<br />
RD-A: 聽起來 LUA 應該是可以解決這個問題<br />
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阿梅: python沒那麼差啊,我看了一下這支程式的複雜度,先調整一下複雜度再來考慮換語言?<br />
RD-B: 你不懂LUA啦,你不知道 LUA 比 python 快多少<br />
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阿梅 OS: (....我導入Lua的時候,這間公司還沒見過你的履歷表....)<br />
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對程式的效能影響最大的不會是語言種類,而是演算法,</div>
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演算法已經調整之過仍然無法滿足需要,此時再來考慮更</div>
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換語言才是比較有投資效益的方式。</div>
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更換語言並不是一件容易的事情,程式語言的更換意味著</div>
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你之前所有的code, library等全部要推倒重來,原本使用</div>
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的3rd party library可能也要隨之更換,這些工作花的功</div>
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夫往往比重整演算法花的時間多。</div>
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Leader與架構設計者失職,他們的規畫與決定很明顯完全錯誤</div>
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眼光只放在programming language上,讓我想唱首歌</div>
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<by South Park : blame Canada></div>
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Times have changed.</div>
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Our product are getting worse.</div>
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It doesn't fit the requirement.</div>
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We just want to ship it ontime!</div>
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Should we blame the customer?</div>
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No, blame Language</div>
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Blame Language</div>
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With all their slow and ugly</div>
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And flappin heads so full of lies</div>
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No, blame Language</div>
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Blame Language</div>
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We need to form a full assault</div>
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It's Language's fault!</div>
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Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07180696513243154369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156768943715219923.post-7141853706509200262012-08-14T23:29:00.005+08:002012-08-14T23:30:20.362+08:00某種役別為了想這個 Topic 就想了快30 min 很怕被找到, 這邊指的是本國年滿18 具役男資格之研究所<br />
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畢業生所能服的一種兵役, 當年年紀小, 所以選擇這個方法, 因為當年比現在還愛騎機車, 所以<br />
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當兵不好, 這種役別在某個單位服役, 寫點趣聞:<br />
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1. 當年某個海的公司, 為了要搞光電計劃, 所以弄個鳳凰計劃, 找了一海票人去當xx役, 就在<br />
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大家開開心的討論未來的日子時, 突然這個時候宣布不玩了, 所有的人自己想辦法...<br />
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<a href="http://www.ctimes.com.tw/News/ShowNews.asp?O=HJLAN5CVGONSA-0MEK">http://www.ctimes.com.tw/News/ShowNews.asp?O=HJLAN5CVGONSA-0MEK</a><br />
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這可是有圖有真象的, 可憐了這票人, 最後政府出面叫 ITRI 全收, 這票人後來大多數都進<br />
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園區其它廠了 像是 TSMC ... MTK<br />
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MTK 也是有個故事的, 當年 MTK 分家時一票人不願離開母親(聯電) 的懷抱, 所以被切出去<br />
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的都很難過, 誰知道幾年後....真是十年河東十年河西啊<br />
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2. 很多人為了不當兵, 所以用自己公司的名義申請缺額啊...<br />
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3. 大家都在寫甚麼科專計劃書, 就我看來這是寫科專日記吧, 我懷疑有沒有單位看過內容<br />
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因為大家實在不知道寫啥好就開始抄書, 抄到不知道寫甚麼好了, 就開始寫日記, 寫心情...<br />
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然後交出去換錢....<br />
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4. 以前的光景啊, ASUS 可是喊五年可領一千萬啊, 我就想如果我當時跟現在一樣, 我一定早<br />
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發了移民, 可惜不會想, 只會想做興趣<br />
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講到這公司, 從下一篇開始我會開始寫工作上遇到的趣聞....idioterenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16863474903208703279noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156768943715219923.post-34134558727453438862012-08-14T08:47:00.000+08:002012-08-14T08:47:00.960+08:00激怒獎金-1<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">很多公司都有激怒獎金的故事, 比較多的是公司明明有賺錢, 但是加薪卻很少, 或是季獎金給的不夠多. 想必大家都看過很多了, 所以要講些新鮮的</span></b><br />
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<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">這邊是某家 IC Design House 給加班獎金卻激怒大家的故事</span></b><br />
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<b id="internal-source-marker_0.5860720125492662" style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Project 在趕的時候, 通常老闆都會用一些激勵人心的方法來增加工作效能, 像是加班獎金</span></b><br />
<b id="internal-source-marker_0.5860720125492662" style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">一般來說, 在科妓業是沒有加班費這件事情的, 大家都統稱責任制*1</span></b><br />
<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></span></span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">話說我們有一顆 IC 還在前期 FPGA Bring Up 階段, 老闆為了激勵人心, 準備了大概一百萬的獎金, 在這段期間加班的, 一律以時薪的三倍計算加班費*2, 不過領了加班費就沒有補休了. </span><br /><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">不過我剛講了, IC 還在前期 FPGA Bring Up , 所以能加班的人只有 ASIC 和</span></b><b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">驗證</span></b><b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">ASIC 的人, software及 hardware 的人統統沒有辦法加班. </span></b><br />
<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">所以這個辦法一公佈, ASIC 和驗證 Team 就卯起來加班, 加班對台灣的 IC Design House 是家常便飯, 所以光是 ASIC Team 加班, 就可以很快的將獎金消耗光, 不到二個月加班獎金用完了, 這時候 software 還是沒有拿到任何一筆加班獎金, 因為沒有東西可以驗證, 那來的加班工作. </span><br /><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">第一筆獎金發出去了以後, ASIC 和 Software 就期待會有第二筆的獎金, 可是呢, 左等右等, 一直沒有宣佈第二筆獎金的消息, ASIC 也在幹,software 更幹. 結果就是錢發了, 老闆沒有看到預期的效果, 因為加班完, FPGA 還是沒有帶起來, </span><br /><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">整間公司 RD 從上到下班幹到爆. 有拿的也幹, 沒拿的也幹. </span></b><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap;">這個教材告訴我們, </span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 15px; white-space: pre-wrap;">"不是發錢就可以增加效能"</span></span><br />
"發錢造成反效果的最佳教材"<br />
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<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">註1: 責任制只是因為科技業有給免費的股票吸引大家留下來拼命, 大家是"自願的", 並不是責任制就可以叫你無限制的加班, 這是二件事情, 事實上責任制的定義是比較嚴格的, 而且工作時數仍然不能超過 8 小時. </span></b><br />
<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 15px; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">註2: 基本上員工應該可以選擇加班補休或是領加班費, 不管有沒有這件事. </span></b>idioterenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16863474903208703279noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8156768943715219923.post-28087608950448546122012-08-14T06:26:00.001+08:002012-08-14T21:37:59.979+08:00這是一個開始話說事情總是要有個開始, 當一群老人聚在一起沒事做的時候, 就開始畫點蘭花之類的<br />
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大家突然發現, 原來大家說的都是這幾年來在社會上看到一些 "相當有趣" 現象<br />
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看在他人眼中可能不過是老人的抱怨, 所以請有空逛過來的多多包函.....<br />
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在這邊你不會學到....<br />
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1. 怎麼創業, 這太神奇了 20 多歲的可以暢談人生創業經驗, 害我不禁想起當年我20 來歲時<br />
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每天窩在實驗室理拼命打電動的日子, 看到沒, 人家都可以暢談創業經驗了<br />
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2. 炒股票, 這更神奇了, 又是20 多歲在那暢談他怎麼在幾年內透過股票賺到幾千萬, 這也讓<br />
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我汗顏, 當年華碩剛上市乃至於600 多時我都沒跟上, 早知到應該偷偷把家理的房契地<br />
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契的搬出來, 全部梭進去, 現在我應該在環遊世界的路上而不是坐在電腦前寫這篇不知道<br />
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目地的文章了<br />
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3. 怎麼吸收部下, 這講的好像老鼠會一樣, 其實不然, 這邊是說怎麼找人幫你賣命, 但甚麼事<br />
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都不用做, 沒想到時光匆匆, 這石頭煮了20 30 年了, 還在有人煮, 喔對了我每次都有放進<br />
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去一塊神奇的石頭喔, 你想要喝湯可以, 要先拿出點東西進去一起煮, 在那之前我甚麼都<br />
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不會給你喔, 這是我商業秘密....<br />
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因為老人起床尿尿時間有限, 所以要慢慢補完這篇文章, 所以就先寫到這邊, 以後再來往下寫<br />
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May the idiot around with you.idioterenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16863474903208703279noreply@blogger.com0